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Time. >> exactly. and also within the margin of error. we're looking at a neck in neck race. a closer election. >> bill: remember when the incumbent runs against the challenger, marjorie, the challenger always wins if it's a dead heat. always, because you have a known quantity against an unknown quantity. so unless the president is up in those swing states by three or four, he's toast! >> we don't know that. and also we're talking one debate into -- >> bill: that's the only -- the next debate on long island is a quote, unquote, town hall. and that's where people get up and say, mr. president, ...

>> bill: where is he going to go? he's got to talk to otis. both will run wild and say what they want! >> he's decent in those situations. >> bill: yeah, he's good in those situation, but so is romney. >> let me talk about the depth of his support. when you look at the political, george washington poll that came out, this is taken mostly before the debate when certainly that's going to switch some support to the republicans, the enthusiasm gap is really big. double digits. some people saying they're -- >> bill: the polls say the romney voters are more motivated than the obama voters. >> it's m...

>> bill: ready to go where? >> i don't know. >> bill: where is he going to go? he's got to talk to otis. both will run wild and say what they want! >> he's decent in those situations. >> bill: yeah, he's good in those situation, but so is romney. >> let me talk about the depth of his support. when you look at the political, george washington poll that came out, this is taken mostly before the debate when certainly that's going to switch some support to the republicans, the enthusiasm gap is really big. double digits. some people saying they're -- >> bill: the polls say the romney voters are mo...