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met him, we got put together at a dinner with a whole bunch of people, and by the end of that dinner, he and by the end of that dinner, he and i were planning an expedition together with our families to climb kilimanjaro. he saw that we had the same interest, to do something quite extraordinary, and he immediately invited me along to what was already a very well prepared expedition —— hamish. i didn't happen but it was by the by. so he understood the risks, he's done some remarkable things in his life, you know, he used his position in ways that hopefully people will focus on now...

These types of expeditions in future to be carried out safely.— to be carried out safely. we will be back with you _ to be carried out safely. we will be back with you a _ to be carried out safely. we will be back with you a little _ to be carried out safely. we will be back with you a little bit _ to be carried out safely. we will be back with you a little bit later. - to be carried out safely. we will be back with you a little bit later. i - back with you a little bit later. i want to play you a bit of that press conference we heard just under an hour or so ago. have a listen. but! hour or...