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Paul, what is your question, please. thank you so much. my question is, what is the role of the international communityl in the ongoing conflict in ethiopia? and must the west intervene, or can ethiopia's conflict be i resolved using african - agencies and institutions? thank you. gabriel, i will come to you, because you are ethiopian—born and obviously you have got a good sense of this, so... what is your answer? yeah, this is... it is a loaded question. what can the external partners do? again, this is very much an internal issue. through and through, make no mistake. it started as a law e...

Of west africa and this is desperation and these are people that are probably, you know, responding to the public demand for change. i think mali gives a very good example, because it is lieutenent colonel goita there, who originally said he was handing over power and then extended that to 2025. yes, and that is one weakness. you know, power can be addictive, power is very seductive, and that is the question. the problem with military coups is that, how do you then terminate them? how do you move to the next level? i would say that is where you have a role for regional blocs. the regional bloc...

I think they need to be held to their word, they need to, you know, a coup is less than ideal, but they need to make sure it's temporary, if they can restore security, they need to hand back to elected institutions, but again, i would call for nuance in the case of west africa and this is desperation and these are people that are probably, you know, responding to the public demand for change. i think mali gives a very good example, because it is lieutenent colonel goita there, who originally said he was handing over power and then extended that to 2025. yes, and that is one weakness. you know,...

Now, where i think the external partners could help, the international community could, you know, economic issues are largely drivers of coups. let's help kick—start those economies. let's make sure that people are eating two meals, three meals a day, can go to school, blah blah blah. let's build the local institutions that modulate between conflicting sides, so that you don't end up taking arms, rather than selling arms to this side and selling the anti—arms equipment to the other side and benefiting from both. applause. i mean, ijust, you know, the un secretary general antonio guterres s...

Between conflicting sides, so that you don't end up taking arms, rather than selling arms to this side and selling the anti—arms equipment to the other side and benefiting from both. applause. i mean, ijust, you know, the un secretary general antonio guterres said this year that military coups are back in africa, and he has blamed a lack of unity in the international community in their response. for not doing something about them. so clearly, he is quite sceptical. 0k, ourfinal question is from paul. paul, what is your question, please. thank you so much. my question is, what is the role of ...