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Veterans, alisyn. there's no question. look, i feel strongly that we were making very significant progress. we had bipartisan support fixing the v.a., transforming it. we had improved wait times. we got 11 bills through congress. i don't know any other area that had so much progress. we were fixing the v.a. to many people it took their ability able to say we need to privatize the v.a. >> senator bernie sanders was on on yesterday and he said he thinks the v.a. will move in the direction of privatization. here he is. >> i would strongly suspect if you get rid of shulkin and put dr. jackson in, ...

Privatization. >> dr. shulkin, do you think that's the direction the v.a. will be moving in? >> i certainly hope not. i understand senator sanders concerns. look, we have bipartisan support, great leadership to make sure the v.a. is there for men and women who go off and protect our country. we have the veterans themselves, the veteran community who knows it is essential to have a strong v.a. you can work with the private tech sore. that's the direction i was moving in. it is essential that we work together and make this the very best that our veterans deserve. and i think the country recogniz...

Right -- president obama did this over time. can you tolerate disagreement. this is something that seems to be a death nell. >> that's how they make up their own mind. >> we will talk about that coming up. we have the ousted v.a. secretary david shulkin. he says he was fired for his views. so what does david shulkin think the future of the v.a. is? he's next. just some mind-blowing engineers from the ford motor company and pivotal who developed fordpass, allowing you to reach out to your car from wherever you are to check your fuel level, unlock your doors and start your engine... so when you'...

Fired stpwhru general kelly gave me a heads-up. >> so the tweet fired you? >> yes. >> do you think that you were fired because of your views on privatization? >> every cabinet member serves at the pleasure of the president. i think the president needs to have around him that he feels comfortable with. this is his decision. i don't know exactly all the reasons that went into that. that's not something that is really that important to me. there's no doubt there were people around the president advising him that the v.a. needed to go in a different direction and that he needed to have different l...

Dr. jackson is a very honorable man who wants to do the right thing. and he's going to need to build a team to help him do this. this is a big job. the second largest agency in the federal government. $200 billion a year. very c very complex organization. building the right team, having the support of the president, the congress, and the veteran community is what dr. jackson will need to be kefl. >> an agent of $370,000 people, do you think they can be run by somebody who no managerial experience? >> there is no doubt that it is a challenge. this is a leadership position. it is very complex ma...