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I think, the clintons got knocked around a bit for -- with racism charges, i think democrats and liberals have been building a case for the past couple of years now that any opposition to obama is racism in disguise and i think so when you come out in the sort of odd challenge to a guy who is holding the presidency for you and happens to be the first black president, that looks bad for them and i think it would be a tough narrative to fight against, they are not exempt as we saw during the primary. bill: i'm out of time, thank you, and we'll have you both back on real soon, okay? >> thanks. bi...

And caroline hellman, and coauthor of the book "rethinking presidents, are we ready for a woman in the white house" ladies, hello and good morning, today we discuss bill clinton, mary catherine, what is he up to? >> well i think there is clearly some obama-clinton grudge still going on here especially with bill who i think felt knocked around during the primaries. you know, he wants to repay a favor to romanoff, which is fine and maybe he heard about the white house and romanoff talking about how he got white house job offers and he thought i have presidency powers to throw around here, too, a...

Candidates are -- have a hard row to hoe because they are both well behind in the polls with the republican candidates in the state, so, at this point it might be moot. bill: here's what everybody is trying to figure out, now. and i -- i guess in time, we'll understand this, mary catherine. but, when blanche lincoln came from behind in arkansas about a month ago the headline wasn't necessarily blanche lincoln wins it was bill clinton leads her to victory. >> well, i would add robert begins seemed to think there was more to clinton's move than just helping out romanoff, in the briefing yesterda...