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Before that decision came out -- >> preclearance. >> absolutely not. to your point about the necessity of preclearance, everyone who saw that trial knew wisconsin had no shot, no evidence of voter fraud and we have hundreds of thousands of people who would be disenfranchised by it. they talked about changing the i.d. law, exactly what places like mississippi were doing between 1961 and 1965. you start to win a lawsuit. and then they change the law and you have to start all over ag n again. that's why we needed preclearance. >> it stopped discrimination before it happened. which can impact the ...

Programs where kids and israeli west bank, israeli, palestinian, turkish, greek, kids in south africa and north ireland, all playing ant same teams. >> how do you know this works long term? they don't just come, have fun, and then go back and start hating each other all over ag n again. >> this is our tenth year. we now have kids that have been in the year that serve as coaches. we have outside evaluations done by experts in the field that show that our programs are working, that kids are not only changing their perceptions through their participation with peace players but are applying it to ...