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For the audience. that they have a steady-stream hose on. and then, the men and women are working on top of that fire. >> yes. >> and obviously, common sense told me you don't want to work on top of a fire. they say that's the balance. how so? >> they are trying to risk themselves, life over limb. it's one of the terms. right now, they are trying to rescue people under there. they are willing to put themselves in harms way, to the point of going to the edge of the bridge. going to the edge of the dock and saying i am here, i am going to stay here and help as much as i can until somebody forces...

Perfectly. when you said that it is methodical, it is technical, it is thoughtful. as we remove each piece of debris. because if there is the potential to save a life, we have to give that person every opportunity to survive. and we have to make the situation better, not worse. that's why you see such a technical, methodical process being undertaken. >> everyone i saw on the site that i spoke to about, where are you in your hope window? everyone answered, immediately, this is hard. they could be in there. why, that -- is that the kind of confidence you have to carry just to do the job? or is t...

These families. i want to bring in someone else who knows exactly what this chief is doing, because he used to work with him. and the understanding of what the challenges are and how they have to be looked at within the specific windows. because i know that's the curiosity. i have somebody who has lived in reality and we'll get the best perspective we can in this moment right after this. i didn't realize how special it would be for me to discover all of these things that i found through ancestry. i discovered my great aunt ruth signed up as a nursing cadet for world war ii. you see this scanne...

That were underneath trying to save the rescuers in the building with firefighters themselves. how long can they live in that? go back even to the pentagon. we know a lot of our brothers that had to go in and out of that building while the fires were still active, actually absorbing a lot of that carbon monoxide. >> and carbon monoxide is always a problem with fire. you don't know what's burning, though. household chemicals. what's in vehicles, what's in building equipment >> all of it. all cancer-causing materials. >> and obviously, very noxious to the people who are inside. >> 100%. >> and t...