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Before. good to see you, brother. thank you for taking the time. first, does anything i just said not meet with your expectations of what's happening on site? >> you actually characterized it perfectly. >> so the idea of why it is so hard, why it has to be methodical, what makes it that way, help us understand. >> well, you have to understand that we are in the midst of a rescue mission. we're operating under miami-dade fire rescue, who is in command. and their direction to us has been clear. we are in rescue mode and we have to treat everything we touch as such. so you characterized it perfec...

What was being done to the building that in any way gave a reasonable concern that this type of event was possible? >> no, nothing. what the board knew was outlined in that certification report. and they were entirely dependent on the items that the engineering would outline in that report. typical things that an engineer looks for in a certification report, in miami-dade and broward county, which are the two counties that require this kind of certification, a review of the roof, the hvac plumbing, but certainly, if there was nothing hard outside that was outlined in that report, anything that...

Life brings our way. it's just our job to deal with it. and thank god, you got the kids and you got out because you know how many people don't have that story. in terms of any kind of insight, was there construction going on? was there anything that, you know, you thought about afterwards? repairs? >> so, they had been doing construction. so we came down for valentine's day. it's my birthday on valentine's day. we came down in february. and there had been a lot of drilling and sounds from up from the roof. >> above. >> from above. >> we thought it was the penthouse doing work. >> right. later ...

Certification. is a review of the roof, hvac system, electrical, plumbing. but certainly, if there was nothing hazardous outline understand that report. anything that would have proven to be a danger to -- to life. and the engineer outlined what the priorities were. and the priority was the roof replacement, which was underway. >> now, i understand the logic that, if the board knew that there was something this serious, why would they have stayed in there? i accept that point. but when we hear about the work on the roof and that it was going on for a long time. this talk about spalling. do eit...

Escaped, how did you make sense of it? >> i was just grateful my son was there to hold me up, because the minute i looked behind me to really get a grasp of what had happened and what we had just gotten out of, it was pretty -- it was surreal. ser it was scary. it was terrifying. there was a mix of emotions. i was sad for -- i saw the flattened building and i was like, that could have been us. my kids are here. i couldn't make sense of any of it. i felt like, why? why did we get out and how did we get out? >> we were talking before. it's not our job to explain what life brings our way, it's ju...