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Person. most mostly importantly, there's data that shows crime doesn't go up. when 30,000 people were let out in 2011, guess what, crime went down. >> do you not agree there isn't a prison overcrowding problem? >> i think there's an overcrowding problem but i also think part of the problem is we let them -- put people in and we let them out so quickly that it doesn't seem like it's a real place for people to actually go when they do commit crimes. i'll give you an example. it's not actually funny, mark. if you talk to somebody who's been addicted to drug or watch a kid die from an o.d., it's n...

Drug courts, it's something that i think other states are looking at. but we have about 96% population in our prisons now. california i think is over 160% population of their prison. so they got a real overcrowding problem. i think part of it goes back to not making thoughtful decisions about who you're sending to prison and what for. the idea that a kid has one marijuana cigarette and you send had him to prison where they can learn to really be a hardened criminal is not thoughtful public policy. use these drug courts, put intervention programs in to place, shock probation an keep those young...

Decade ago, we started looking at adjusting the penalties for criminal use of marijuana. and what we've seen is our prison populations have gone down. as a matter of fact, even president obama and eric holder looked at texas and said, what they are doing there with their drug courts, it's something that i think other states are looking at, but we have about 96% population in our prisons now. california i think is over 160% population of their prison. so they got a real overcrowding problem. i think part of it goes back to not making thoughtful decisions about who you're sending to prison and w...

Simply have too many prisoners to fit into the kind of facilities that are here. after five decades, harris of that. the authorities still aren't able to fix the overcrowding problem. back to you. >> harris: dominic di-natale thank you very much. can we safely protect our own embassies and consulates overseas. is al qaeda really on the run? serious questions about a serious terror threat to american lives abroad. retired four star general jack keane will join us. trying to save an icon of the ancient world. what officials are doing in italy to try to preserve the coliseum in rome. the running ...

Creating a problem in arizona, joining pit bulls as the most common doggings at local pounds. why? well, maybe julie banderas can explain. >> reporter: a lot of people like little dog, an overcrowding problem at the humane society causing a huge problem really by an overabundance of two specific dog breeds, chihuahuas and pit bulls, the overpopulation problem so bad chihuahuas and pit bulls make up 30 percent of the dogs up for adoption at the humane society with chihuahuas being one of the most popular bleeds, the dogs we're told are coming in from everywhere and many, sadly, are sprays. >> t...