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Response to that? >> free range response is i love helmets and car seats and seat belts things you can keep doing your everyday activityies without changing them. the idea that there has to be somebody with children all the time otherwise they're not safe or watching them somehow electronically is a new one and i find it weird. when i was a kid and my mom sent me out to walk to this school as we've discussed already the crime rate was higher she wasn't feeling like she had to follow me or hold my hand and actually when i got to the corner and i needed to cross, the crossing guard back then was...

Said why don't you let me find my own way home. and we made sure he knew how to read a map. he speaks the language. we're all on the subways all the time including him. he's very familiar with it. there's safety in numbers 6 million people ride the subway every day and altogether it seemed like if he was ready, we were ready. and i wouldn't have let him do it if i thought it was a crazy, dangerous thing, i let him do it because i thought it was a normal part of life. >> what do you make of that attempt to give a child independence lenore's decision to let her 9-year-old ride the new york city ...

We think of them in terms of danger at all times. >> why did you turn your son at age 9 on the new york city subway? what was the thought process? >> the thought process was he'd come to me and my husband and said, will you take me some place and let me find my way home on the new york subway. we talked about it. and we made sure he knew how to read a map. he obviously speaks the language. we're all on the subways all the time including him. he's very familiar with it. there's safety in numbers. 6 million people ride the subway every day and altogether it seemed like if he was ready, we were r...

Security. to go in the opposite direction and to think that it can't happen to mor or it can't happen to my family at all is being irresponsible. >> what's the free range response to that? >> the free range response is i love helmets and car seats and seat belts, things you can keep doing your everyday activiies without changing them. the idea that there has to be somebody with children all the time and otherwise they're not safe or watching them somehow electronically is a new one, and i find it weird. when i was a kid and my mom sent me out to walk to school, as we've discussed already, the ...