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And our oversight ability is an ability in name only. >> but if that is your view and you've also said this week's testimony goes right to the heart of the issue of bribery and said that what you've seen is, quote, far more serious than what nixon did, explain how you have not come to the conclusion that the president should be impeached. it sounds like you think he should be impeached. >> i certainly think that the evidence has that been produced overwhelmingly shows serious misconduct by the president. but i do want to hear more from my constituents and my colleagues. this is not a decision ...

Oversight ability is also a nullity. >> i know where you are on the whistleblower and the leaf you really don't need to hear from the whistleblower anymore. but you did blej that the intelligence committee would hear from the whistleblower in some form or another. are you going to fulfill that pledge? >> we had a deep interest in having the whistleblower testify until two things happened. one, we were able to prove everything in the whistleblower complaint with witnesses that had first-hand information. and second, the president and his allies effectively put that whistleblower's life in dange...

Nixon revised the authority for piercing that. and if you really go with this absolute immunity, in his words, eviscerates congress' oversight ability. >> what about the fact that this entire impeachment is illegitimate, bogus and therefore they don't have to cooperate. will any court find that a reasonable argument? >> at some point down the line you may see that play out in court. you think about the mcgahn situation. that subpoena was issued early this year. >> before ukraine. >> before ukraine and before, certainly, before today's house vote. i think you'll see an argument that the preside...

Senate and how it is wrapping up a three-year bipartisan investigation and we found nothing remotely justifying this. mr. barr's investigation has already jeopardize key international intelligence partnerships. he needs to come before congress and explain himself. is he obligated to do that? if the senate calls him to talk about it, does he have to do it? >> they have oversight ability. they can call them in. he doesn't have to talk about an existing investigation. the senate is may be the least efficient and effective way to get to the bottom of a matter. the department of justice exists for ...

York for insider trading. so clearly there's people in the trump administration that have information before it's public. we just want to know if any of them leaked this out or somehow gave it to people who then made trades. >> then what happens from here, congresswoman? do you have any leverage or pressure that you can put to the sec? do they owe you any sort of response? you've put the request in. can they just keep moving on and do nothing? >> very often agencies will give no comment because they say we don't comment on ongoing investigations. and ted and i both understand that. but the pro...