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Moreover, the more important part here is they actually said congress doesn't need to keep proving to the president of the united states in the course of checking and balancing that they have legislative purposes. if they assert they do if there is legitimate oversight function, so be it. they must be trusted. >> of course the white house will appeal this. now the deutsche bank and the mazars think they have gone that way. they still have tricks up their sleeves. maybe it will take years, but nevertheless democrats this morning, joe, are feeling bullish finally -- they feel they have been ston...

Judiciary so say let's resolve this chicken game. you don't have to prove a legislative purpose to me initial i, to the president of the united states, you can actually assert it because you have the authority to do so and number two it can't possibly be that congress was not supposed to be able to have oversight over you and they cannot investigate you and there can be a check and balance. you have the president of the united states 0-2 in this case. huge deal. >> what do these rulings tell us about the legal merits, saying they have no legislative purpose? >> it's not true. the founding fath...

The argument that democrats in congress are overreaching, which has essentially been their response to all of the requests that democrats have made thus far. and this is now the second ruling to say that the president's finances, as you pointed out, he has red line are not, in fact, off-limits. i think that when you look back at that list in march of the 81 associates or entities connected to trump that house judiciary democrats requested documents from, it was clear that they had every intention of investigating the president, his family, his business, you know, obviously, the conduct of his ...

President of the united states. stonewalling of this we believe that the president of administration but did not call for that inquiry. the united states has engaged in jerry nadler also says he wants a cover-up. bob mueller to testify in in a cover-up. public, after we're hearing that the special counsel wants to go >> such significant words that in private. that's another thing he weighed the house speaker, nancy pelosi in on and declined to weigh in repeated them, saying publicly on yesterday. this is cord atoeg multiple she and fellow democrats believe attendees. nevertheless, pelosi essen...

Congressional democrats? >> yeah, no, look, congress needs to fulfill its investigatory and its oversight function. and the executive branch actually has an obligation to respond to that. so i think that more or less saying, i'm going to take my ball and go home, i won't do anything if congress is going to continue to fulfill its obligations, that won't play well anywhere. because people expect washington, d.c. to work. expect things like the base issues like infrastructure, roads, bridges. we need it in montana and you need it all across the country. >> and finally, when you talk to people in...