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You can see from kevin mccarthy interviews. congress is frustrated. they have demand the documents and got notten them. why? pete: if you went to ninth grade civics three branches of government they are coequal. congress has oversight function u if power is too much in one branch it can be corrupting which looks like may have happened under the obama administration. even though new appointees have you career bureaucrats who can slow walk processes. it takes aggressive lit gators in the house of representatives and the senate to do something about it. rachel: here so much talk from the left abo...

To discredit christopher steele, to discredit the fbi. >> so chuck, you hear it there. how likely is it to go over among your own colleagues in your beloved institution that the fbi to up aerate on the knowledge this attack on this american institution may just be an act of deflection away from the president in. >> well, brian, it wouldn't be the first time. and it is my beloved institution and beloved for a reason. because the men and women there are good and decent and honest and try very hard to get it right. i'll say this. congress has a legitimate oversight function. lord knows i've testi...

>> obviously. there were 59 women, to be fair a lot of men as well, saying they do think that there should be. how would it even work if they tried? >> that's the other thing. and, by the way, i sure hope i'm wrong. i would love to be proved wrong on this one. but i don't know how they would proceed. normally the oversight function from congress is carried out one of two ways. either oversight hearings, and that's usually conducted by an economy li committee like the house oversight committee and that's usually targeting presidential appointees. the other mechanism is through impeachment proce...

. there's no reason for a hiring freeze in the stapt. they imposed it on them. the 76 positions that need to be filled are not being filled. i listened to senator corker and his desire to hold meetings and briefings. we need to do that, but we also need to speak loudly. the hiring freeze must come to an end. these buyouts he's been talking about could be used in a way that could drain even more the experienced leadership in the state department. congress needs to exercise its oversight function. >> senator ben cardin, thank you very much. thank you for being with us, sir. coming up, is flynn...

Cooperate with congress and give congress the information they need to perform their oversight function in a way that doesn't compromise the fbi's interests. send it to congress under a shield of confidentiality. but give congress the information they need. >> neil: why do they take a position saying nope, we're not going to help out? >> that's an excellent question. i suspect that in the fbi's view, this concern and still concerns in ongoing investigations and that they don't like it when congress is looking over their shoulder and demanding to see the raw evidence and the information that th...