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Though, do you feel as though congress needs to hold the administration's feet to the fire on things like zinke's travel. steve mnuchin's travel? or are you confident how the president has handled this? >> well, i'm very confident in the president and the way he ha handled it, you saw how quick he reacted to secretary price. washington d.c. has an oversight issue and that falls in the hand of congress. we control the purse strings and we should know where every dollar is going to be spent so we can do a better job, much better job of paying attention to dollars spent which is why we're in-- i ...

Will say that i think this plays right into donald trump's plans. he wanted the media to oversight issue and oversensationallize it and paint at elitist issue. it's something that we should all be concerned about. kelly: brad, your thoughts. >> the present danger to the world and i wish the world can get together on issues like radical islam which is a direct threat to our country here and proliferation of nuclear weapons than climate change. president obama thought it was so important not only for the country but for the world, he would have called the procedure that would ratify by the senat...

Issue, the oversight issue that is getting a lot of people angry at our government right now, is former labor secretary robert reich. he's the author of the book "aftershock." tell us what kind of heat is this organization, the national highway traffic and safety administration facing right now? >> it's a lot of heat. obviously it did not act. when a regulatory agency that is there to oversee and prevent these kinds of tragedies does not act, everybody wants to know why. just like they want to know why gm didn't do anything. the problems here are deep. number one, the agency's enforcement budg...

Ed, the smart reporters uncovering the stuff all the time because they don't have the resources. that's where you have the really big problems, i fear. whereas new york, chicago, l.a., you've at least got people who are trying to root out that corruption who are paying attention. >> and you have media, certainly we see reports all the time in new york. but ed from your reporting, why is it so difficult to stop this? i know you looked at hampton specifically. but do you get the impression that well, nobody really wants to deal with it because that corruption at a different level is happening ev...

Outside of the irs knew about this and when. >> did you ever communicate or speak with anybody in the treasury department not within the irs about the sharing of confidential information, taxpayerer information? >> i don't believe so. i don't know whether you are talking about the subject which would be fine to talk to them about? >> that is what i'm trying to find out what you knew and who you spoke with. >> is miller looking evasive there or is he not understanding the question of whether or not there were people outside of the irs knowing about the internal issues going on there, specifical...