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Like the sorts of things you've got to worry about if you're in oversight mode. >> can you put together a perjury charge based upon all that stuff, as disparate as paying off women you had relations with to threatening, threatening -- how many times did he threaten sessions? he just intimidated the guy to do something. yelling at him because he didn't recuse himself. it seems to me like obstruction of justice to me. >> yeah, so obstruction, there's a number of charges you can put together, perjury. you need to swear and trump has been able to allude it, except, there is an indication. this is ...

We obviously haven't seen that happen yet. but that's an area where the president has suggested we keep looking. >> as he came on the south lawn he hedged his bet both ways. he came out and said, look, did see about me, but he came out two days ago on sunday and said, look, this isn't about me at all. it's about the republicans and like it was going to be bad -- >> that's him, though. that's what he's done with immigration. and david, if we look at, you have to consider if it democrats get the house and they go right into oversight mode, which is generous term for it, that's a lilt bit of a di...