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That to be effective, too. so it's pretty tough going right now. >> miles, we also heard commander marks tell us a short time ago that the u.s. might provide more assistance if t malaysians ask for it. right now the malaysians haven't asked for it? >> i thought they did ask for it at one time. maybe they need to be clearer. just say look, send us an aircraft carrier, more p 8s, p 3s. i thought his answer was a bit of a sidestep saying we don't want planes to bonk into each other. that can be worked out. >> a lot of people say send an aircraft carrier. why aren't there 50 planes and not 20 plan...

Debris on the surface or on the ocean bed. and that's what the p-8s -- the p-3s should be doing. it has been delayed, but the maritime surveillance is still going to be out there and still looking for the on top of the surface clues. >> colleen, i wonder if this delay really puts the crew under pressure, giving them about two days before they get out in the area where they think that, you know, they can reach the or hear the pinger before it dies. >> well, i'm sure they're feeling the pressure. but the silver bullet comment is -- has a lot of merit. if you think about it, this is the only tpl ...

Good point in terms of not knowing where we're supposed to be tasking the ships. you can't rapidly retask ships. we've already seen the search area move once already from the sort of deep southwest 700 miles north. if you've got ping locators out in that southern location, so suddenly expect them to head up 700 miles north rapidly, it's not going to happen. >> right. >> so during this delay, we need to have the p-8s out there, the p-3s, they need to be using the time to get out there and really coordinating the data we have to make sure we're narrowing down the search area. >> i think you're b...

Effectively. and with all due respect to the r.a.f. and the brits and everybody else, the malaysians keep saying they're going to expand this, and that they're going to ask the americans to provide even more of its stellar equipment. >> well, i think will makes a critical point we need to zone in on in terms of the "ocean shield." yes, it is a unique and advanced technology, but it has serious constraints. and that constraint, it can only see a mile around where its ping locater is. and when you look at the size of the area, you know, it's not designed to go straight into find the needle. we u...

Australians for taking the lead on the international search. but more importantly for their military as well. they'll have been working around the clock nonstop for the last three weeks, reacting on all of the different types of data we've seen coming in. i think colleen raises a really good point in terms of not knowing where we're supposed to be tasking the ships. you can't rapidly retask ships. we've already seen the search area move once already from the sort of deep southwest 700 miles north. if you've got ping locators out in that southern location, so suddenly expect them to head up 700...