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Torture. >> you said you thought it was torture if it happened to you. >> i allowed for the possibility. that is all i did. and -- >> but you would have done it, just to be clear, you would have approved it and said it was okay. >> correct. >> and you don't think anyone should be held responsible who made the decisions to say it is okay? >> responsible, yes. criminally liable, know. >> so it is not a crime. >> no. >> thank you very much. i appreciate you taking your time. and up next, a senate controversy. and breaking news, we are hours away from, oh, wow, a possible government shut down....

It removes from that experience she doesn't care about bill cosb cosby. >> i was moved by the fact that she says she worked with young people who had been through their own share of traumas and she said she felt like a hypocrite. alisyn, thanks for joining us. ahead that the hour, growing controversy over the senate cia torture report and the newest twist. also a key figure in the cia's interrogation program is breaking his silence but not breaking ranks with the spy agency that paid him millions. ♪ ♪ ♪ push it. ♪ p...push it real good! ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ oooh baby baby...baby baby. i...

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