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>> i think we need reform of daca, but we also need border security, ending chain migration and ending the lottery system we have for these programs. i think this has to be a packag package, and i think we should not have a situation where you only address daca, we have to address greater border security. >> tucker: but they're up in all of these demonstrations were people who are not here illegally jump up and down, make threats, calling people racist, block disneyland, show up at offices, show up in front of chuck schumer's house. why does no one love the country enough to find out who these...

Juan williams, columnist with the hill. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. okay, steve. we saw earlier an amendment offered by south carolina's mick mulvaney to pay for $17 billion in disaster relief was shut down. now there is another effort to scale back the overall packag package. what about this debate and how it's playing out? >> it's a good debate. what we saw with the mulvane amendment was telling. republicans were voting 2 to 1 in favor of the amendment which would have taken the $17 billion and offset it by making $1.6% cut to discretionary spending across the board. that is a ...