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Clicking a little more. but, yeah, in the beginning, there was a challenge because of melania's past as a model and she being the third wife of the president. the pences are, as we know, devoutly religious. they're very traditional. they hold themselves to an incredibly high moral standard. so i think there was a literal foreign nature to this exotic melania trump creature coming on the scene and that created some initial friction and not an exact closeness right off the bat. and with ivanka trump, this is, again, a stepmother/stepdaughter relationship. ivanka really appreciated and liked mela...

Own. >> manafort on his own, papadopoulos acting on his own, page acting on his own, flynn acting on his own. they were in and out, coffee boys, they had little to do with the campaign. there is a lot of smoke. >> it's all fine if donald trump jr. is tell the truth. >> >> russia, if you are listening fine those e-mails, i want to see them. >> that was answer incredible moment and will always be. >> to that extent it raises the possibility there is the element of coordination here. >> aligned versus coordinated. >> that should matter. because if the russians reach out the to the clinton campaig...