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Continue, this will have a significant impact on the way the consumer spends. i mean if, when you talk about oil prices going up the way they are, that's going to have an impact on not only gasoline prices, but that's going to have an impact on what we purchase at the stores -- neil: but it hasn't yet. and charles, one of your points has been that this, there are other factors at play that are countering this, right? >> yeah. ten months of strong wage growth, typically for blue collar workers. something we haven't seen in well over a decade. you know, even the last consumer confidence report f...

>> emily: literally someone else can shock you if you give it to a family member. if your brother gets ahold of it that would be all day long. >> jesse: it could work. but you have to have a high threshold of pain like you said. it has to really hit you. i have a very high pain threshold. >> juan: they say you would have to have this five days. like you would have to go through this five days. i think as a matter of impulse control, only way this would work as aversion therapy is if you decide, yes, i have got a problem. >> greg: right. >> juan: if you don't know have you got a problem. >> dan...

Are now having to wait for help had. i want to bring in cnn's congressional correspondent phil mattingly. phil, i feel like you and i have been in congress long enough to know we're not elected and aren't members of leadership, but if you would have asked us this kind of bill, with this kind of price tag in today's day and age be a sure thing for everybody to agree to without actually taking a vote? >> yeah. >> it would be a no-brainer in. >> this was utterly predictable that this was going to happen. anybody who has watched any large fiscal bill would see this happening. the pain threshold re...

Usually somebody has been trying to force a shutdown because they want to make a political point. that is not the case here. nobody really wants a shutdown. certainly congress doesn't want a shutdown. it's simply note clear how they get anywhere without somebody caving in. the president has essentially backed himself into a corner. this is -- i covered now more shutdowns than i really care to think about. and i do not see a way out of this one. whereas the others, you could see how the political pressure was going to build on one side. i was inevitable they would eventually cave n that doesn't...

Much? >> too much. >> too much for either side. that's why it is interesting that you see some republicans in the house, some republicans two or three in the senate voice, maybe it is time to reopen part of the government until we get these negotiations going. is trump going to listen to them or listen to the base? and on the other side, you know, democrats are the party and and the government of party employees. if this thing stretches on for months, then maybe their own base starts saying, you know what? it's just $5 billion. we need to be paid. >> donna, what is it that you represented the ...