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An american identity that is white and christian. >> and malcolm nantz, we know there are at least two people -- two or three people inside of the administration that have this ideology that is this sort of the real fight is between if christian west, white christians, and islam. so talk about this influence that steve bannon and general michael flynn are having on this administration and are they making the matter -- making matters worse when it comes to counterterrorism? >> well, they're absolutely making matters worse. that's pal tently obvious by this blapg -- blanket travel ban they had o...

There are at least two people -- two or three people inside of the administration that have this ideology that is this sort of the real fight is between if christian west, white christians, and islam. so talk about this influence that steve bannon and general michael flynn are having on this administration and are they making the matter -- making matters worse when it comes to counterterrorism? >> well, they're absolutely making matters worse. that's pal tently obvious by this blapg ket trav-- blanket tn they had on these countries. i think they're test beds to see how they can move forward an...