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West bank gaza with east jerusalem as its capital. that's 22% of what used to be historic palestine. i think once again the israeli side is resorting to pretext and afraid confront the truth that there has to be an end to the military occupation of the people. we're hearing the no partner slogan again, the same thing we heard when the -- when fat fat was engaged with israelis. i think they are all pretext to avoid reaching a solution to end this conflict. >> what do you think of his general view that hamas is simply not an organization that he can ever have anything to do with? and if you insi...

Hamas? >> i don't think there is truth to this allegation. the palestinian side has been -- has been engaged with the u.s. administration in proximity talks, in direct talks, we have offered proposals, ideas, suggestions that until today we have not received one single response from the israeli side. and the compromises, we have made historic compromise in 1988 when we accepted the state of the palestinian state in the west bank gaza with east jerusalem as its capital. that's 22% of what used to be historic palestine. i think once again the israeli side is resorting to pretext and afraid ton c...

They are seen as an expression of weakness. if there is no quid pro quo on the other side it will be difficult for the israelis to extend it. >> when you say the other side, the palestinian side. >> yes. >> are there any significant differences today than there were when you were carrying messages from the clinton administration to israel 15 years ago? are there any significant differences today? >> well, there have been a lot of in terms of the palestinian view of things, basically, no. but, you know, the fact is that everybody understands what the general outlines of the deal are in terms of...

Internal, domestic politics on the israeli side and u.s. side that are driving -- >> on the iranian side. iran is also place that had politics, right? >> absolutely. pit personally can speak less to that but, of course -- what we are hearing is that iran is a divided country. and that ahmadinejad is increasingly isolated from the ayatollah. and there -- there is -- a lot of dissatisfaction within iran towards the regime. and iran is also -- has faced its internal uprising and oppositional movement. so -- that plays into it. >> can i ask you this question, jennifer? you said about the -- the me...