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Perfectly. when you said that it is methodical, it is technical, it is thoughtful. as we remove each piece of debris. because if there is the potential to save a life, we have to give that person every opportunity to survive. and we have to make the situation better, not worse. that's why you see such a technical, methodical process being undertaken. >> everyone i saw on the site that i spoke to about, where are you in your hope window? everyone answered, immediately, this is hard. they could be in there. why, that -- is that the kind of confidence you have to carry just to do the job? or is t...

Reliable list of those that are missing, it will help the search and rescue operations. if somebody says somebody's missing in a certain apartment, we can focus the search and rescue operations in that part of the building. right now they're looking for needles in a haystack. you can imagine the size of the collapse area. so any help that the family members can provide or friends, call that number. it's going to be very important. >> retired miami-dade fire rescue chief dave downey, thank you very much. the latest we're learning from this building collapse in miami is that 35 people have now b...