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Which they will try to go to the supreme court. really no matter what that panel rules. >> and again, laura hit on this point. i hit on this point earlier. the fact that in this ruling earlier, it was the statements from mr. trump himself that with were ultimately used against him in blocking this ban. >> that's right. today's ruling is going to be taken apart by everybody and they are going to find once again the biggest obstacle to president trump's executive immigration order and it will continue to be president trump. the one point on which the ten judges in the majority slightly disagreed...

I believe it was just audio last time. secondly, what is the likelihood that this will go to the supreme court regardless of how this panel rules? >> very rarely do we see live video from the federal appeals court hearing. to put it bluntly even lawyers consider this hearing somewhat dry because it is procedural. we can report that the judges did grant this. everyone has access to the video to my right. this is now widely expected to go before the supreme court. that is because you have one set of rules here in the seattle case which is 9th circuit. you have 4th circuit that has a case and you...