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It's not china's sort of guaranteed hard landing which people seem to be concerned about yesterday. it seems to be that cooler heads are prevailing. >> and in some ways, i guess in beijing, is there now a realization that after dropping $2.5 billion trying to prop up stock prices none of that really works and at the end of the day it only affects a small percentage of the population. >> i think that's a fair comment, difficult to know what's going on at that level in the minds of policymakers. but certainly, having thrown in many ways, the kitchen sink at the market earlier in the summer, afte...

>> i had a total panic reaction. i am paranoid. i realize i couldn't be inconspicuous with this cast. i came up to the guard. he looked at me. he looked at the cast and said que paso. >> i had a climbing accident. >> he opened the suitcase, he sees mountain climbing gear in there. i grab it and i explain. >> this came out of the wall and i fell. >> i felt dread and panic. if they body search me, they would find the cocaine in the cast.

Then i would fly from quito, ecuador, to mexico and travel to where i could just walk across the u.s. border. finally, the bus pulled up to the peru-ecuador border. i was here three years ago. this was a cake walk. you showed them your passport. they stamped it and they let you through. i saw them searching peruvians and ecuadorians, patting their bodies. body searches. this wasn't supposed to happen. were they going to body search me? customs man came aboard. then he said -- take your luggage out. and this attractive, young traveler sat next to me said -- i bet you have a kilo of cocaine unde...

They can get. their objective is money, manpower, and media. they got their point across easily. if you look at the whole pick dhr and everything that took place, it falls into what the hostage situations are. the first ten to 30 minutes of any hostage situation is what we call panic reaction. that's what took place. the hostage takers are looking for a place where they can be comfortable. the military and the police are looking for cover and containment, and the hostages are running around, trying to find cover. it's fight or flight. >> i'm curious because you mentioned media. something we no...

You have any cans of talking your way out of this situation? these were not little, little girls. they were 14, 16 and one was 20. >> first of all, the most important thing is the first 10-30 minutes is panic reaction. is where they try to organize themselves. the hostages try to find a place to stay. it's containment or cover. that is the most dangerous. that is where people get hurt or killed. if you are taken hostage, you treat that hostage take where royalty. you treat that hostage taker as if he is in command. any questions you don't ask questions. you let him ask questions. if you are si...