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A bill even on border security in the house. that's what republicans are saying. well, we need to do that first. well, they're not doing it first. they could bring up a separate bill. so there has to just be will on the part of the house republican leadership to even do things their way and see what happens. so i don't think it's going to happen any time soon. >> the president, beth, is set to travel to mexico this wednesday. he's going there for an economic summit. at a time that his own immigration campaign is pretty much stalled in congress. so what do you think the president's options are?...

On the ground, and i believe there's definitely a lot of movement on the ground and also in the congress. i think that there's some hope that something will come out. we don't know exactly what it will look like. we don't know how difficult it's going to be for people to be able to get the citizenship, but we know that something is definitely happening. >> what's so striking to me about those images is if you compare to the fight of affordable care act or mccain/kennedy, there was a massive countermobilization, there was a bunch of rallies and people showing up at town halls against this piece...

Strong midterm force. so when the incumbent party does tend to lose, it may be the right short-term positioning. but that goes to your point, which is if the long-term concern is that they run these nominees, and they can't put together a winning coalition and then all they do is turn around and sort of covet the support and the short-term strategy of the tea party and a couple districts, then they are not thinking long-term. >> if there's one ray of hope on what is increasingly a dark cloud, it's the immigration question. on everything else the gop seems to not be going the direction of progr...

And candidate romney and the primary dug the hole deeper. >> a death spiral with his panic voters. i don't think they can undersell the gravity of the problem they have with hispanics. but how do you reconcile the principles that will continue to move the party forward and a comprehensive immigration policy? >> i think it's going to be tough to do. lindsey graham has been someone who has been pushing immigration reform within the republican party. but to your point, when i was running for congress, we found immigration in my district. it wasn't people's number one issue, but there was very, ve...

Holder was right. it's because he was a surrogate, a proxy for barack obama. an argument that he's fighting for all americans is real. joe biden touched on that in his remarks. i'd point out that romney ignored it entirely. >> this is aimed much more at his panic voters than african-americans. >> absolutely. >> and in florida they make it very clear this is a resonating issue and they need to minimize the turnout of minority voters. >> in texas, for instance, there have been 70 vote fraud cases since 2002. 39 million votes. >> right. exactly. >> and more alien sightings.