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All see in public. just a few weeks after receiving this letter from trump's lawyers robert mueller unleashed a surprised. a surprise. he unsealed what was a big surprise indictment that nobody saw coming. the only time we ever see mueller act in public is when he indicts somebody, right? well, before this letter went to mueller's office in january, before then we'd seen mueller indict trump's campaign manager or campaign chair, paul manafort. and his deputy campaign chair, rick gates. we'd seen a guilty plea from this papadopoulos guy who had also worked on the campaign. and from mike flynn, ...

Robertueerunleashed a surprised. a surprise. he unsealed what was a big surprise indictment that nobody saw the only time we ever see mueller act in public is when he indicts somebody, right? well, before this letter went to mueller's office in january, before then we'd seen mueller indict trump's campaign manager -- campaign chair, paul manafort. and his deputy campaign chair, rick gates. we'd seen a guilty plea from this papadopoulos guy who had also worked on the campaign. and from mike flynn, who had worked on the campaign and been knowable if not googleable people involved directly in the...

Night in new york and washington. just trying to replay in their minds. now that they know that papadopoulos is cooperating what phone conversations, what e-mail exchanges did i have with george since he was arrested? as pete keyed in on, likely probably not cooperating prior to his arrest, although i can't rule that out. i have seen staged arrests before. arrested at the airport. probably, you know, the real deal. but i've also seen staged arrests just to make things look like he's not already cooperating. but i can tell you based on past experience, particularly in corruption case, that he w...

Usually breathlessness in the reporting of legal matters is inversely proportional to the knowledge of them. pete is always restrained so i always listen very closely. mr. papadopoulos was not charged with any crime for seeking the dirt on hillary clinton. i think this is probably the most overlooked aspect of the story today. is that if it was illegal to go after the bait that the russians put out there, then he wasn't charged with that. he's very much up to his neck in this. and there may be others. certainly manafort and gates. but thus far, papadopoulos was not charged for wanting those e-...

Prison time at all. that should tell you he was a valuable cooperator. i wouldn't get too excited about whatever proactive means or doesn't mean. >> what's the next stage of the investigation, pete, what do we know about that? >> nothing. >> okay. >> i don't know. >> always appreciate your honesty. our justice correspondent pete williams. and peter alexander at the white house for us. ashley parker is a white house reporter for "the washington post." she's also an msnbc political analyst. hugh hewitt is a conservative talk show host, also an anchor here on msnbc. frank fegulisia, former fbi co...