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That's when we get the papadopoulos information. >> laura: well, that's from former general counsel of the fbi, jim baker about our next guest. george stephanopolous?-- no papadopoulos, said that he has only just begun to lay out the time line of when he believes the obama intel agencies were attempting to entrap him. he joins us now. george, what haven't you revealed to date, how many agencies were coming after you one person, and something that they tried to get your girlfriend to do? what was that? >> oh, my god. thanks for having me, laura. besides the fbi trying to have my then-girlfriend...

Then in the midst of that, that's when we get the papadopoulos information. >> laura: well, that's from former general counsel of the fbi, jim baker about our next guest. george stephanopolous -- no, papadopoulos, said that he has only just begun to lay out the time line of when he believes the obama intel agencies were attempting to entrap him. he joins us now. george, what haven't you revealed to date, how many agencies were coming after you, one person, and something that they tried to get your girlfriend to do? what was that? >> oh, my god. thanks for having me, laura. besides the fbi tryi...

Having seen what the russians were able to pull off in 2016 are trying to do the same thing. i'm worried about it. it is a solemn obligation that the federal government has, not just the president, the entire federal government has to try to deal with the situation. >> i was struck by the news over the last week that two counties in russia were hacked by the russians or invaded as you would put it by the russians in 2016. that would raise alarm bells. >> two counties in florida, i think it was. >> yeah. >> that's the information. you don't know exactly what they are going to do. they are extre...

Papadopoulos information, you have all the information about what the russians are doing with the hacking and the dumping of e-mails. clearly intended to have an impact on our political system. then we get the papadopoulos information. you can think of it like an actor on a stage. george papadopoulos walks across the stage. we see the set in front of him, the backdrop. we see what he's saying to us or what we heard indirectly. >> how big of an actor on that stage was the steele dossier? >> to my recollection it comes later. after we have already started the investigation. yeah, it comes in lat...

It refocuses the discussion a little bit on the origins of the investigation into possible trump campaign ties with russia. that has very much been a focus lately. to put it bluntly, you have been dismayed by where the discussion is going. why? >> because i want the american people to have trust and confidence in its governmental institutions and that this investigation was not done for political purposes. it was not an attempted coup or anything of this nature that we in the fbi and elsewhere in the government trying to deal with a novel and difficult and horrible situation that we had no des...