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President trump on with no evidence except that papadopoulos statement. trying to remove a president of the united states on a false charge and then going through false affidavits, phoney dossiers and setting up people. i don't know if it's treason, but it's a sure an act against the united states. it's a conspiracy against the united states of the crime. it's a very, very serious crime and people should go to jail for a long time. >> laura: all of the people who have been jaw boning for 2 years about russia and other countries want to mettle in our election, that's a concern, but there should...

President trump on with no evidence except that papadopoulos statement. trying to remove a president of the united states on a false charge and then going through false affidavits, phoney dossiers and setting up people. i don't know if it's treason but it's a sure an act against the united states. it's a a conspiracy against the united states of the crime. it's a very, very serious crime and people should go to jail for a long time. >> laura: all of the people who have been jaw boning for 2 years about russia and other countries want to mettle in our election that's a concern, but there should...

Is the message there that you would have a senator, such as a lindsey graham say something like that? does this help to empower the president? >> absolutely. it is the same message that most of the senate republicans have been sending the president throughout the presidency on all issue issues. they condemn him on the one hand for certain statements or threats, but then they kind of waiver and basically, they don't do much to show that they would stand firm if the president did something like trying to remove attorney general sessions. so i think that when you have someone like senator graham ...

Dreamer. i didn't talk to him, because he was of no relevance. >> just because someone works -- >> i was going to say, i think you're not taking this in the broader context. if you look at the papadopoulos statement of defense, what it shows is that papadopoulos was trying to minimize his relationship to the campaign when he spoke to mueller about his contacts with the russian professor with the woman that he brought with him and others ongoing. also, what was minimized was papadopoulos' dealings with sam clovis, who was chair of the campaign and others. and this brian lanza piece is another e...

Yeah, young man, he's a real dreamer. but i didn't really talk to him because he was of no relevance. >> so just because someone works -- go ahead, michael. >> i was going to say, ken, i think you're not taking this in the broader context. if you look at the papadopoulos statement of offense, what it shows is that papadopoulos was trying to minimize his relationship to the campaign when he spoke to mueller about his contacts with the russian professor, with the woman that he brought with him, and others ongoing. also what was minimized was papadopoulos' dealings with sam cloebis who was co-cha...