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Paper ballots substituted for them. we understand an actual lawsuit is going to be filed by donald trump and the republican party to take those machines out of action for the rest of the day and to substitute that with paper ballots. now, whether or not that happens and whether or not that will have an effect when the finally tallies are done, remains to be seen. i can tell you pennsylvania isn't sensitive just because it's one of the swing states, it's sensitive because two-thirds of the voting machines do not have a paper backup. in other words, most voting machines you could go back and rec...

Moment in the count in pennsylvania. >> we're talking about automated machines? a computerized program? >> we're talking about touchscreen machines where you go to touch -- the candidate your voting for, without paper backup, you touch and it lights up for your candidate. multiple voters saying when they touched donald trump, hillary clinton's light is still light. as i say, that's -- now, these machines are known for this problem. one of the things, you have to -- there's a stylus and your finger. you're supposed to use the stylus and be right in the middle of the dot. so, there could be a li...

>> that's why he hates "the new york times," they pay attention. >> we're talking about election vulnerability, hacking, the best way to guard against hacking, have a paper backup of your vote. 80 will have that. 20% of those won't. some of those 20% are in pennsylvania and virginia. >> when we walk out we have a piece of paper that -- >> there's a piece of paper that remains there, 80% it's a backup if the results look questionable. >> you don't want anybody walking away with saying how they voted. there will be a committeeman or ward member checking you. >> don't take a picture like justin t...

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