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Scheme. we discussed it on these various dates and time. obviously a lot of pressure is being brought to bear on allen weiss weisselberg. if michael is right and other people in the trump orbit, the close orbit get charged, it will be interesting to see whether someone else comes to the table and wants to cooperate against donald trump. >> you there's another michael who knows how this works as well. he's the former attorney for donald trump, and it's michael cohen. this is what he said about the trump organization today. >> every single thing, whether it was the acquisition of paper clips, li...

Is, as michael cohen was saying to you yesterday, in that fascinating interview you did, alisyn, reminding us over and over again, as somebody who was in the room, in the building for a very long time, donald trump was and is involved in everything from buying of paper clips to whatever may or may not have happened with allen weisselberg and his family. and so, that is something to keep in mind, not just in this case but with whatever, if anything else happens down the road that michael cohen was warning you about. >> i mean, obviously, the challenge will be proving that. michael cohen has sai...

Attorney, michael cohen, this is what he said about the trump organization today. >> every single thing, whether it was the acquisition of paper clips, light bulbs, furniture, mattresses, you name it, allen weisselberg's kids' payments, rents, everything, would have donald trump's signature on it or his initial. >> according to the indictment, trump signed the checks. but it seems like who's eisselb was the one taking all the risks. is that the way trump operates? >> it is the way he operates. but one of the things that also indicates that donald trump may have been at the heart of this is tha...

What you do. you want that? what else do you want? i'll give you that. willie, so michael is exactly right. this is not debated in a vacuum. you don't say no to bills that have 70, 75% approval rating when you have a contested race where republicans are vacating their seats, a senate seat in pennsylvania, in ohio, in north carolina, most likely in wisconsin, it depends on what the ouija board tells ron johnson. you have a race in arizona. no he is consulting the ouija board, you have to have the tinfoil hat on just right, get the paper clips, put them on the doorways, but if the signal is comi...

This involved a florida man who possessed about four grams of cocaine which would be about the weight of four paper clips. he had nearly a pound of powder cocaine, and he wanted to seek a redemption. it was argument that the court was sympathetic but they said sorry, the way the law is worded no matter what the people in congress and the administration intended it to say, it doesn't say that or apply to people like him so they're out of luck. the decision today was unanimous. >> what are you reading into that? the fact that the decision was unanimous and what are the implications of that from ...