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President ordered him to sue arizona. i asked him before the judiciary committee when he was under oath, point to a constitution violation, statutory violation or federal case law that arizona law would have violated. he could not answer any of those questions that was five minutes before he was asked have you read the bill? i was politically motivated. he admitted that the president ordered him to sue arizona. what was principle? they couldn't articulate that principle, now they are trying. >> rich: excellent point. there's a radicalism to this lawsuit the president is saying the law is writt...

Pelosi and the democrats. >> rich: michael some democrats say the rating on congress is terrible. people like everyone in congress, is this going to be an anti-incumbent year and democrats are going to be okay. do you buy that? >> yes i think incumbents in general have challenges, republicans and democrats have challenges. yes the american people are frustrated as we all should be. i think democrats will still hold both houses. >> rich: i'm not so sure about that. i remember telling myself over and over again in '06, republicans have lots of money, ratings of the democratic party are low. the ...

Democrats say the rating on congress is terrible. people like everyone in congress, is this going to be an anti-incumbent year and democrats are going to be okay. do you buy that? >> yes i think incumbents in general have challenges, republicans and democrats have challenges. yes the american people are frustrated as we all should be. i think democrats will still hold both houses. >> rich: i'm not so sure about that. i remember telling myself over and over again in '06, republicans have lots of money, ratings of the democratic party are low. the end of the day it doesn't matter. when people wa...

Judiciary committee when he was under oath, point to a constitution violation, statutory violation or federal case law that arizona law would have violated. he could not answer any of those questions that was five minutes before he was asked have you read the bill? i was politically motivated. he admitted that the president ordered him to sue arizona. what was principle? they couldn't articulate that principle, now they are trying. >> rich: excellent point. there's a radicalism to this lawsuit the president is saying the law is written by congress, by you guys doesn't matter. what is there on ...

>> rich: michael some democrats say the rating on congress is terrible. people like everyone in congress, is this going to be an anti-incumbent year and democrats are going to be okay. do you buy that? >> yes i think incumbents in general have challenges, republicans and democrats have challenges. yes the american people are frustrated as we all should be. i think democrats will still hold both houses. >> rich: i'm not so sure about that. i remember telling myself over and over again in '06, republicans have lots of money, ratings of the democratic party are low. the end of the day it doesn't ...