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Cultural factors that kids grew up with. again, i go back to my years of the paperback test. anderson, i knew as a kid that i was black. often my grandmother would tell me, don't go outside, because you'll get black on -- well, i'm black. they were afraid i would become too black. >> the paper bag test -- >> some blacks could not get into nightclubs because they were too dark. the light erskine, yellow, cream, they had -- we knew they had better advantages than darker skinned black people. we knew that at an early age. >> there has been, it seems, progress. >> there are other studies on biraci...

Original test when they overwhelmingly chose white over black. the pilot study was designed by child psychologist professor margaret spencer. and po bronson. donna, what do you make of that? that black kids still have sfg of a white bias? >> again, it wasn't surprising, but a little shocking. given, again, the innate cultural factors that kids grew up with. again, i go back to my years of the paperback test. anderson, i knew as a kid that i was black. often my grandmother would tell me, don't go outside, because you'll get black on -- well, i'm black. they were afraid i would become too black....