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They want can do that, right? >> but they have to disclose it -- >> is it is a -- der sall you wn your own campaign, that is their argument. >> you have to disclose who made the payment. and two, you look at motive and intent in a case like this. the intent was not as in the obama situation, a clerical error, this was an intent to mislead by hiding the nature of the payment. this is the kind of case that gets prosecuted. >> robert, i get to defend this -- maybe there is a paperwork problem on the pass

Mischaracterized by the campaign and by now the government. they found 24 million entries on voting rolls where there was a wrong name because a voter died, moved or had been inactive. that's a paperwork problem. it does not go towards whether there are people committing the crimes. and the author of that study has rebutted this repeatedly, most recently saying as primary author of the report the trump camp sicited, i can confirm the made no findings about voter fraud. there are disagreements in life and politics and government and many can be good faith and we referee them sometimes. this is ...

To 5 million crimes occurred. the language he said task force, he described something that did not sound like a criminal investigation of the 2016 election but rather something that quite frankly has happened many times before, there were bipartisan commiions that look at voter registration. the pew report he mischaracterized yesterday when we were sitting here was by david beck and flagged some of these things. there may be a little christopher columbus complex here where they're showing up in town and saying oh look what i discovered, voter registration issues, and the response is hey, peopl...

This alleged paperwork problem? >> well she is represented by an outfit called liberty ns to the which is a nonprofit law firm based in plano, texas, near dallas representing her in the case. she talked only through the lawyer. i spoke with her lawyer earlier in the week. tried to contact him tonight to find out what the status of the situation is. they continue to maintain it is her right not to issue those same-sex marriage licenses herself. but that she will do it for everyone when exactly that will happen we are still waiting to find out. >> ryan nobles appreciate the update. thank you. ah...

Being allowed to claim illnesses caused by agent orange. this is a paperwork problem. you know, they have so much paperwork ha they just simply can't put it through. as you mentioned, the documents that we obtained, showed that even though they had spent half a billion dollars trying to computer eyes this thing over the last four years, 97% of these claims are still on paper. there's a complete dysfunction at, there's a bad management at most of their regional offices and at the end of the day, what this meant is if you come home from iraq or afghanistan and file your first claim in new york c...