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That's very specific and very damning. >> it is. it is. and the law doesn't require that it has to be the only reason. you can have concerns about your reputation. you can worry about your wife getting angry, right? it just has to be the primary reason. so the language that they used in this agreement is very telling because, again, you don't have to completely get rid of all those other things. but if the primary reason is that, which this agreement says, he's done. it's a violation. and that's what makes it different from edwards, because edwards ultimately was found that it was really more ...

Obama did not do the same thing. >> completely different sort of thing. obama filed things late. it was more paperwork technicalities. this is different. >> when they say this was the largest fine, it was because they raised more money than anybody else had raised in that, so they had to pay a huge fine. >> it's just a completely different -- technicality has nothing to do with this. this is purposeful. this is a lot more like john edwards, but again the facts here are much more damning. one other thing. at trial john edwards put forward this defense. this is a matter of fact for the jury to d...