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An adversary, russia that had helped this president win election and that now he's beholden to. this is the paradigm case. this is the case the framers had in mind. we've never had before, a case in which the president demonstrably and even by his own confession uses the power of his office, the majesty of his office not to serve the national security interests of america, but to serve the personal interests for re-election and perhaps eventual wealth and fame and power by the president. this is it. this is the case they were waiting for. >> well, let's talk about that and the language of the ...

Want to run a business as well, you don't get to run the platform. think of it this way, like in baseball, you can be an umpire or own one of the teams but you don't get to be an umpire and own the teams. >> you're a progressive, that's the wing of the party elizabeth warren is from. we're going to talk about bernie sanders a little later on in the show with you, so let's stick to warren. do you think this is a good policy proposal? >> i think she's right we need stronger antitrust law but i think it has to be a case-by-case basis to go after the privileging on platforms. let me give you the p...

Do you think this is a good policy proposal? >> i think she's right we need stronger antitrust law but i think it has to be a case-by-case basis to go after the privileging on platforms. let me give you the paradigm case, microsoft's case, where the government went after microsoft for tying the internet explorer. they said you can't privilege internet floorer. but the government never broke microsoft up. there's a difference to say whether you should privilege companies and make sure they aren't preferencing their own products versus breaking them up. >> let's take facebook as a case. if you w...

Plotting, and who else might be plotting to make attacks of their own. >> sandra: rick leventhal in lower manhattan, thank you. here with mark, former islamic extremist and author of "radical, my journey out of extremism." the american base of isis, and his director of chicago project on security and terrorism. thanks for being here tonight. doctor, i want to start with the first because you have done such in-depth analysis, specifically of isis terrorists in the u.s. dating back to 2014. what can you tell us about what we are learning about the suspect? >> what we are seeing is almost a parad...