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Technical definition for the criminal statute. president trump if he uses his pardon pow tore get rid of people who may be witnesses, he not only faces criminal charges, he's got to be concerned of a potential impeachment proseergd. >> we're learning more more more. paul butler, appreciate talking to you. thank you. >> always a splepleasure. on day seven of hurricane harvey in texas, first came the raging flood waters. now some are facing a water shortage. more on that just ahead. ing, wh? i let go of all those feelings. because i am cured with harvoni. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment f...

State prosecution brought about whether the state properly has venue. and if so, what state is it, new york, is it washington, d.c. again, that's going to be a really interesting issue. >> and very quickly, if donald trump were to attempt to pardon someone to try to get them out of testifying against him, could that in and of itself be seen as obstruction? >> it could be seen as obstruction as evidence of obstruction in a criminal sense. there the statute requires corruptly trying to impede an investigation. it would look like he's trying to do that. moreover it could grounds of impeachment. o...

Pardons of anybody not on doesn't take care of the problems on the state level for these people, but also that that is an abuse of the pardon pow and would almost be prima facie evidence that it is an abuse of power and would lead to impeachment down the road. the question is is anybody telling donald trump this and is donald trump listening? >> mueller is a cyborg. >> can you say that again? >> he's a cyborg who has a head, a heart and a brain. one of the underappreciated aspects of how he's building this investigation is his ability to coordinate. his vettiinvestigative members not issuing i...