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Actors. so if paul manafort says to bob mueller it was all me and donald trump did not know about it, then mueller is in a position to having to look elsewhere to try to tie this to the president. >> and donald trump was asked if he would pardonelse. >> i don't want to talk about it or we'll talk about it later. do you think a pardon, or you know the president's dangling pardons over manafort and flynn as a result of the mueller probe, do you think pardoning manafort is something that would further emperil the president? if he says, hey, it was all me? >> if he was to pardon paul manafort righ...

Stay on schedule postponed a plan on pre-trial hearing on evidence in the case. a sign that something is going on. what exactly it is, we don't know. we know there's ongoing discussions between paul manafort's lawyer and the special counsel's office. >> very interesting. there's also this. we should keep it in mind, donald trump's flirting with the idea of pardoning paul manafort. trump sought advice from his lawyers in the possibility of pardoning manafort and other aides accused of crimes. his attorney, rudy giuliani, told the washington post and counselled against pardoning anyone involved ...

Unedited fashion for anyone to watch. i was speaking to a sen yr senior editor in the trump administration for a long time. >> he sort of doesn't have any control. there was never any external control to speak of. way back he used to listen to people, but after that he became very famous and full of himself there was no sound control. but he did have a little bit of self-control. right now it looks like he's out of control. >> to idea that the president may be becoming aware that his legal situation post-michael cohen, post-paul manafort, all discussions of pardoning manafort, the coded messag...

I was speaking to a senior editor in the trump administration for a long time. >> he sort of doesn't have any control. there was never any external control to speak of. way back he used to listen to people, but after that he became very famous and full of himself there was no sound control. but he did have a little bit of self-control. right now it looks like he's out of control. >> to the idea that the president may be becoming aware that his legal situation post-michael cohen, post-paul manafort, all discussions of pardoning manafort, the coded messages he's been sending to the manafort team...

President may be becoming aware that his legal situation post-michael cohen, post-paul manafort, all discussions of pardoning manafort, the coded messages he's been sending to the manafort team and the manafort team has been sending back thanking him for his support, that may be contributing to this. >> and i thought that comment was interesting. if you think about it maybe his internal controls are less than what they used to be, but the guardrails that used to exist in the white house sort of have been going away. h.r. mcmaster, the security advisor who tried to stand up on some issues, and ...