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Economy going and have more broadly shared prosperity. >> there is a fundamental difference in ideology though of how to do this, congressman southerland. you said looking back on lyndon johnson's war in poverty if, it had failed, do you keep putting more money into existing programs or do you as senator marco rubio suggested earlier this week, fundamentally reform everything? take a big pot of money that federal government has and give that to the states to administer in innovative ways? they're the ones on the ground who know what needs to be done. >> i don't know, i think you have to look a...

Strategy of trying to get the economy going and have more broadly shared prosperity. >> there is a fundamental difference in ideology though of how to do this, congressman southerland. you said looking back on lyndon johnson's war in poverty if, it had failed, do you keep putting more money into existing programs or do you as senator marco rubio suggested earlier this week, fundamentally reform everything? take a big pot of money that federal government has and give that to the states to administer in innovative ways? they're the ones on the ground who know what needs to be done. >> i don't kn...

Economy going and have more broadly shared prosperity. >> there is a fundamental difference in ideology though of how to do this, congressman southerland. you said looking back on lyndon johnson's war in poverty if, it had failed, do you keep putting more money into existing programs or do you as senator marco rubio suggested earlier this week, fundamentally reform everything? take a big pot of money that federal government has and give that to the states to administer in innovative ways? they're the ones on the ground who know what needs to be done. >> i don't know, i think you have to look a...

>> each family situation is different, mika, it's hard to say one size fits all. for me, i've got two daughters, one in high school. >> me too. >> one in college. 15, 14, 13. >> that's so young. >> awfully young to say we're going to detach that from parents and parent involvement. i understand everybody saying look, each situation is different. that's too young in my book to be pulling kids away from parents. >> i'm with you. just, you know, first look, kind of a broad thought as a mother of daughters, this makes me nervous. >> i would say in an ideal situation, obviously girls are having con...

If you receive welfare benefits -- currently if your kids don't show up for school they cut you at 20%. but if your kids don't get good grades -- in other words don't pass -- they would cut your welfare benefits 30%. there are a lot of critics who say how can you punish a family if they don't have food on the table? >>gretchen: i think this is about parent involvement. i think that the first thing that's important to try and improve grades is to get parents involved. maybe there would be some way to encourage more parental involvement at the school level, especially with families who are recei...