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During this process. >> it translated into political press corps or broader press corps to translate this into ways the public can comprehend. >> these things aren't easy. when you talk about the debt ceiling and bond market, these are things that most of us aren't thinking about on day to b day basis. i think we had this condensed period of a couple weeks where focus was on the deadline at the end of it. seemed like political story won the day in the end. >> there's real drama here in terms of you've got the two chambers of congress at war with each other. internal divisions within the republ...

Party will be. and they're making that judgment by deciding which side of this they're coming down on. >> i think all they need to do -- all they need to say to their conservative opponents of immigration reform is, how many national elections do you want to lose? it's becoming increasingly clear about immigration reform is going to be a huge party? how many elections do you want to lose. >> but then the flip side of that question is, document to lose your next primary? house district, if you sign up for this, you get all this direct money from the conservative grass roots, and at the heart of...

Of making a bomb, that's bologna. you don't just grab a backpack after a terrorist attack that's filled with fireworks and vaseline unless you are going to bob's house. but i mean, you have got to know that this is bad news and it just -- it stinks because it reminds me of a bunch of college kids who aren't thinking. have you quote to think we don't live in a world where good and evil no longer exists. it still exists. >> dana: i'm banning the phrase kid. if you are 18 years old in the united states and you go and volunteer to fight for our military you are a man. if you are a terrorist or you...

Of making a bomb, that's bologna. you don't just grab a backpack after a terrorist attack that's filled with fireworks and vaseline unless you are going to bob's house. but i mean, you have got to know that this is bad news and it just -- it stinks because it reminds me of a bunch of college kids who aren't thinking. have you quote to think we don't live in a world where good and evil no longer exists. it still exists. >> dana: i'm banning the phrase kid. if you are 18 years old in the united states and you go and volunteer to fight for our military you are a man. if you are a terrorist or you...

>> again, everybody just goes into autopilot and, you know, your adrenaline runs and you do what you've got to do, and you really aren't thinking, you know, at least i wasn't. i was trying to assess the situation, make sure everybody was okay as far as i could. >> nicholas now that you've had time to process, a little time to propers sits, help us understand, what are your thoughts about the whole thing here? >> it's sad that people have to take such a -- you know, such a good event and -- [no audio] >> i don't know what their agendas are. everybody is different, everybody has their own, you k...