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During this process. >> it translated into political press corps or broader press corps to translate this into ways the public can comprehend. >> these things aren't easy. when you talk about the debt ceiling and bond market, these are things that most of us aren't thinking about on day to b day basis. i think we had this condensed period of a couple weeks where focus was on the deadline at the end of it. seemed like political story won the day in the end. >> there's real drama here in terms of you've got the two chambers of congress at war with each other. internal divisions within the republ...

Broken codes. >> there are arguments that they suspected this all along. the question that jill abramson told me she gets all the time is who are you to choose? who are you to get to make that decision to publish? we're talking about the demand side of the leak equation. why do journalists get to make this decision and not the government? >> we depend on journalists to make decisions like that all the time to decide what is news and what's not news? to gather as much truth as they possibly can in a very careful way, report it as carefully as they can and quite honestly if not a journalist, who...

Full. >> i thought the point was -- >> reviews of the film have been mixed with one particularly scathing critique coming from assange himself who called it, quote a work of political ap tunism, influence, revenge, and cowa cowardi cowardice. i spoke earlier with the josh's film writer josh singer. >> thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> what interested you about wikileaks and particularly about julian assange? >> i have been fascinated with the idea for a while. i went to school with harvard law and took a class called internet and society back then about 12 years ago, and so i had be...