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American education. >> andrew, the movie focuses on the so-called parent trigger laws which allows parents to sign a petition to essentially take over the school and make dramatic changes if it's failing. that sounds like empowering parents. that doesn't sound like a bad thing. i would say that the notion of allowing parents to take control of a school and have more control over the child's education, doesn't also seem like a fundamentally conservative idea to me. >> it isn't necessarily i suppose a fundamentally conservative idea, the charter school movement and parent trigger law only invoke...

Gretch? >> gretchen: thank goodness, brian. fixing failing schools, the main focus of a powerful new movie "won't back down." the film supports the controversial parent trigger law which empowers parents to overtake underperforming schools. >> we are taking back our schools. go out there and fight for something better. >> we have to find a teacher that has the same ideas you do. >> we're going to try something new. we're going to work a little harder. me included. >> you want to take overt school with me? >> you ain't got time. >> i think it's a knockout. >> gretchen: ben austin is the executi...

Teachers with tenure, and now you're seeing more and more democrats saying we've had it too. >> yeah, the fissure's starting to emerge on this. megyn: what do they talk about in the film? >> when over 50% of the parents in a failing school by certain metrics vote for a major overhaul that can vote to convert it to a charter school, one usually run by a group outside the traditional system, that can vote to shut down a school, 51% of the parents. they can vote to, basically, sack half the staff, fire half or all -- megyn: despite the fact that there's a union that controls the teachers of that ...

Books. i know technology is a very sort of hot button issue but we spend a lot of money on computer labs and didn't always get a good return on investment. a great teacher has to be well trained. a great principal has to be well trained. you wouldn't let a doctor in to an operating room without a tremendous amount of training and training at a very, very high level. our teachers deserve that kind of investment. >> i'm curious about these trigger laws which have been met with controversy. three states with them right now. california, mississippi, texas. with 22 others considering them. these ar...