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Turned over. With respect to the two different standards voting whether its three commissioners vote and that there is no violation or vote there is a fining of a violation, that has to do with the burden of proof, because in a showcause hearing that the respondent bears the burden of finding that there is no violation, we, the commission, will be voting on whether he has met that burden of showing that there is no violation. And that is what requires the threevote majority. On the flipside, when were handling something pursuant to chapter 3, we are voting to determine if there was a violation...

Unless its escape my eyeballs the current draft does not contain that language and i would like to see the subject reintroduced, but i suggest that the commission require audio and or video recordings of all such sessions with the recordings to be made available for inhall camera review as to whether questions arise of incould have hail discussions or acs have taken place during those closed sessions . X and im still generally david pillpa and generally committed or should be. [ laughter ] let me go to item b, without complicating this section, unnecessarily, we have seen complaints about inve...

Reintroduced, but i suggest that the commission require audio and or video recordings of all such sessions with the recordings to be made available for inhall camera review as to whether questions arise of incould have hail discussions or acs have taken place during those closed sessions . X and im still generally david pillpa and generally committed or should be. [ laughter ] let me go to item b, without complicating this section, unnecessarily, we have seen complaints about investigative files. I dont know how explicit this particular document should be about complaints, files and related do...

We have already eliminated the financial penalty, but im just struggling to find that here. Thanks. There were some good points raised. With respect to enforcement, i think it gives us some enforcement authority. Exactly what kind i agree is ambiguous. I think if it means anything it has to mean the ability to actually enforce. And demand that the records be turned over. With respect to the two different standards voting whether its three commissioners vote and that there is no violation or vote there is a fining of a violation, that has to do with the burden of proof, because in a showcause h...

Yes. Okay. This is very fussy. I hate editing as a group, but except for communications generally and committed between a court and party, communications are not typically committed. Odd raiding. Conducted . That would be better. The sort of thing we caught count on mr. Renne for. Any other proposed changes to chapter 4 . Public comment . Im still richard knee. In the previous draft of the Decision Points, there was a provision declaring that the commission would not be required to televise portions of its meetings held in closed session or otherwise required to be confidential. Unless its esc...