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Anything else, this man was not necessarily that person. However, my point was just to say that you can be lowlevel george, you can be low on the org chart and still be the guy who goes to moscow and was sending plenty of emails to people who were high level. High level, theres now it seems like there may be a fair number of people, including high level steve, mr. Bannon, who is for the first time, this is the first moment in which highlevel steve is being dragged into this investigation. First time weve heard his name in a material way and that story may be developing. Let me jump in on this....

So i'm very much validating john's point but that's the way these things work. >> phil rucker, any acknowledgment on the part of the white house that their desire for short-term gain by insulting him. i remember corey lewandowski making the rounds calling him a coffee boy. it turns out george papadopoulos may have been one of the figures who forced jeff sessions to go back and amend his testimony for a second time. we don't know what he's testified to but it's been described to me that whatever bob mueller wants to know about anything, george papadopoulos having pleaded guilty will cooperate t...

More they can put her in a position where she has to compromise and cooperate, because that's a long time. i mean, martha stewart went to jail for saying something wrong to the fbi. so, mr. trump, if you're watching, the longer she's in there, you got a problem. >> or not. i mean, i guess back to your point, john. she knows everything. there's no reason to believe, nothing she's ever dmun her comportment or composure to suggest she would lie. but the fact that someone who knows everything who was warned by the fbi, now spent two days with bob mueller certainly suggests he's circling closer, cl...

Now pretty quiet on the question of whether or not they'll vote to expel roy moore should he win, and to the same question i put to tara. how does the gop unring the bell? you don't in two or four years just wash your hands of racism, child molesters and sexual salters. >> nor do you get that to that point suddenly. we are at that point because these problems. problems with the way many republicans look at women. not all republicans, but enough. the way they look at minorities and minority issues, women's issues. we're not here suddenly. we've been headed to this place or in this place for qui...

Room groan but you raise a really good point. people that look at the products that we have seen, the things that are now public face, these manafort documents came out. when i first saw you on tv today, i says this is over. he's been indicted. but your point that it speaks to the professionalism of bob mueller and his team. is, to me, at the heart of sort of the malignancy that is the far right's attacks on bob mueller. there's been a conversation going on. i know bob mueller personally. i'm sure he's impervious to anything anyone says on cable news on the right or the left. but i wonder if y...