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Runs a restaurant in chicago decides who comes here because he offers a guy a job. and it's illegal. when are we going to have a regular system like most countries, a work permit. you come here with dignity, you get a good wage and everything is on the books? can't we get there? >> we have to. there's no question the discussion has to be had. it could have been had in the first couple years of the obama administration and the democrats seem to plame us with not dealing with immigration reform, but they had the congress, they could have dealt with it. it's got to be an issue we get to because t...

First couple years of the obama administration and the democrats seem to blame us with not dealing with immigration reform, but they had the congress, they could have dealt with it. it's got to be an issue we get to because there are too many people in this country who could be productive citizens or productive workers, if you will -- >> if you ask one party to do it without the other party helping, you know how it works. one party has to give cover to the other party, if you're going to have a tough enforcement provision, republicans have to carry the load, and obama, he has to sell it. he ha...

The rnc could put together their own documentaries and air them on, try to air them on other networks. have you given some consideration to that? >> no. frankly, because part of what this, what these elections are supposed to be about is the people, the grassroots, going out there, hearing from the candidates, meeting with them one-on-one, reading about them on their web sites and then making the decision who they want to support in the respect of primaries or caucuses. the idea of washington or a party helping to determine who the nominee should be is not the way that we should pick our leade...