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But we cannot -- this is not tolerable. we cannot have a condition in america where people's politics are the basis for irs attacks. >> chris: do you believe the statements by the mid level manager so far and that is the only thing we he have seen that this was just a bureaucratic foulup by a bunch of people in the tax exempt the organization's' plying for tax exempt status in cincinnati and this didn't go up any higher? >> the tone is set from the top. that is the problem we have is to look at here. the tone is set. we are in a hyper partisan and intensely partisan condition in washington. th...

But we cannot -- this is not tolerable. we cannot have a condition in america where people's politics are the basis for irs attacks. >> chris: do you believe the statements by the mid level manager so far and that is the only thing we he have seen that this was just a bureaucratic foulup by a bunch of people in the tax exempt the organization's' plying for tax exempt status in cincinnati and this didn't go up any higher? >> the tone is set from the top. that is the problem we have is to look at here. the tone is set. we are in a hyper partisan and intensely partisan condition in washington. th...