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State of michigan elected three women. allstate meld offices held by democratic women. two flipped republican districts. it's overwhelming democratic touchout in 2018. that was a midterm. so the notion that suddenly all those people who rushed out to the polls in michigan to vote for democratic women will sort off say i'm not going to do that this time doesn't make any sense. 171,000 votes separate add trump and hillary clinton income 2016. and gary johnson got 196,000. it's clear that it was a complete oneoff, that trump won that time. he was sub 50%s in popularity there. it's hard for me to ...

Favorite candidate, but i think he's a good bet. neil: it's interesting and you could change and everyone reminds me of that, and for the time being it's clear that democrats want to win more than make a statement. >> sure. neil: which is a fine way to be. as a party perspective. will that-- >> i'd like to go back to what he said and parlay it into what you asked me. the fact that joe biden doesn't seem like a scary candidate because we know joe biden. we've seen how he governs. we know that expect-- if you're a democrat and you have joe biden as your nominee, you're not going to be in the unk...

>> you see this? >> you had a full head of hair. >> exactly. it would be like that. i would be very concerned at this stage. we are coming out of the summer, you know, doldrums, if you will, where folks don't pay attention to politics and it's a little bit of a wasteland even though you've got primaries and all that going on. the fact of the matter is, from a party perspective, in terms of setting up the november campaign, you want the kind of momentum that's going to energize your base, get those dollars flowing, and really put in place the messaging that you want to bring it home, right? it ...

Michael steele, former chairman of the republican national committee, that's why he's smiling, i said "former." and shannon pettypiece, white house correspondent for bloomberg. michael, i'm coming right at you. >> yes. >> if you had your old job, other than looking for a new job, if you had your old job as party chairman, how worried would you be tonight? >> you see this? >> you had a full head of hair. >> exactly. it would be like that. i would be very concerned at this stage. we are coming out of the summer, you know, doldrums, if you will, where folks don't pay attention to politics and it'...

Committee, that's why he's smiling, i said "former." and shannon pettypiece, white house correspondent for bloomberg. michael, i'm coming right at you. >> yes. >> if you had your old job, other than looking for a new job, if you had your old job as party chairman, how worried would you be tonight? >> you see this? >> you had a full head of hair. >> exactly. it would be like that. i would be very concerned at this stage. we are coming out of the summer, you know, doldrums, if you will, where folks don't pay attention to politics and it's a little bit of a wasteland even though you've got primar...