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About having a big check on china. is that -- >> well, i'm not from the midwest, but my wife is from detroit. and i've been married 26 years, thank god. i've been to detroit, and i laughed when i went through confirmation that i one of the things i brought to this job was i saw how differently the country looks at trade. you can't do gimmicks. but i went to steel mills in ohio, with sherrod brown, and i remember going to the cleveland's "plain dealer" editorial board, and sherrod brown gave me the most remarkable introduction, for fighting for the workers, and then they said, sherrod, you goin...

Of undercurrent that it's about presidential leadership. and i'll remind everybody, after the 2012 shellacking democrats -- >> 2010. >> -- 2010, it would have been nothing in the president's political for him to move forward, you know what, to help jump-start our economy, help put americans back to work, we're going to move forward with the trade agreements with panama, korea, and colombia. we did that. the president gets it. he understands it's always been tough. i was a mayor when president clinton was in office and we had to vote on china pntr. these trade votes are always brutal. it crosse...

Underperforming. we have a soft economy. there's a lot of economic anxiety out there, and people project the anxiety against trade. that one of the reasons they got job insecurity is potentially because foreign competition and leadership in washington is giving away too much. that's, i think, largely a myth, but enough truth to it that people with feed off of that. what's dinteresting, when you look at trade agreements that resulted in enormous trade surplus for america, you still get populist sentiment against -- >> what's the -- >> u.s./australia relationships, enormous trade relationship. p...