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right now, it seems many of those bridges are being burned. would you agree? well, i think it's... yeah, absolutely. we see things have changed a lot in the last five to six years, basically. and a lot of dialogue has been cut off. there's a lot of communications cut off. and most, of course, on top of that, the covid—19 pandemic has also isolated many countries. and also given the, you know, the trade war, the sanctions, the... ..ideological and tax code decoupling and all those things add up. i think that we really need to strengthen the dialogue, strengthen the communication a...

the head of the agency says he believes russia is strategically reducing supplies now to prevent european countries from stockpiling gas. now on bbc news, it's hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk. i'm stephen sackur. on the eve of russia's february invasion of ukraine, president xi of china and president putin declared their two countries enjoyed a friendship without limits. is that a strategic partnership that beijing may come to regret? my guest is influential chinese think tank founder and sometime government adviser henry wang. from a draconian covid response, to st...

to a western alliance reinvigorated by that ukraine war, are china's vulnerabilities suddenly in sharperfocus? henry wang, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, steve. it's a pleasure to have you on our show. i'm mindful that you were the founder, the creator of a think tank, the center for china and globalization. you said you wanted it to be a bridge between east and west. right now, it seems many of those bridges are being burned. would you agree? well, i think it's... yeah, absolutely. we see things have changed a lot in the last five to six years, basically. and a lot of dialogue has ...

Covid policy in china — the draconian restrictions, the locking down of cities, the restriction of travel for weeks and months on end — it makes it impossible to do business in china. well, i think china actually is already getting out of this. shanghai's restoring and beijing is doing fine. you know, there's caution because... who knows? we may have another big pandemic coming up. if next, there's a big wave of pandemic to come up, china was the best prepared country in the world because we have developed all this technology, green card, passing code and also, of course, massive testing a...

And beijing is doing fine. you know, there's caution because... who knows? we may have another big pandemic coming up. if next, there's a big wave of pandemic to come up, china was the best prepared country in the world because we have developed all this technology, green card, you know, passing code and also, of course, massive testing and minimum cases and at least interrupted production... of course, i think there's some price to pay. there's certainly cost. but this kind of learning curve, china is really cutting short. and i think china is now, you know, really bouncing back. so, if there...