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kelsey grammer is one of the most talked about, one of the most famous, one of the most beloved faces in american television history. he joins me now. you are, aren't you? you've been part of the american television consciousness for so long. you must walk around the street and everyone goes hey, kelsey. everyone must think they know you. >> well, those things do happen. those events do take place. sometimes it's hey, frasier, but more often than not, it's hey, kelsey. >> do you like the kind of mass attention you still get? or i've done it, i just want to just go and -- >> it's alwa...

>> i can't speak for them but myself personally, i never would expect for somebody to trade my life for prisoners, ever. >> never. >> you would not if you were in captivity. >> i think we probably all after this happened talked to our families and said look, if that was me, go ahead and leave me there because i signed on the line to die for my country. i deployed, expecting, not expecting, knowing i could die. if i got captured and you're going to release five high-profile taliban leaders, i'm one guy, nobody cares about me. >> you would rather die in captivity -- >> i think every single one o...